(C)arl
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Post by (C)arl on Aug 21, 2008 7:17:08 GMT -5
Only Time: The Collection
is limited to a worldwide release of 200,000 copies, yet the collection is still available at online music stores, such as Amazon.
A Day Without Rain sold more than 12 million (12,000,000) units worldwide, and Amarantine sold over 4 million (4,000,000) discs in its first year of sale, yet 200,000 copies of a limited collection box is still not sold out –since its release in 2002- after 7 years??
I don’t get it?
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Post by Treecat on Aug 21, 2008 7:45:52 GMT -5
I've wondered about the 200,000 figure, too. Somehow, I don't quite buy it. There seem to be plenty of them out there, if you want to buy one.
Aurora/Nigel told me that he found his OT:TC in a discount bin for about $10.00.
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Post by astro on Aug 21, 2008 8:56:14 GMT -5
Which may be an indicator of the reason why it hasn't sold out yet, TC and Carl.
It may be what some refer to as "Cost Prohibitve". Which brings to mind, does anyone know if the 'Amarantine' Box Sets sold out yet?
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Post by Moe on Aug 21, 2008 11:28:12 GMT -5
Usually, when a limited edition of sometime is offered for sale, each item bears its registration number; the autographed Amarantine booklet I have has its number clearly indicated, though I forget what it is at the moment.
I never noticed any number in the OT:TC - has anyone seen one?
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Post by Treecat on Aug 21, 2008 11:54:10 GMT -5
200,000 is not a limited release.
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Post by riene on Aug 21, 2008 19:24:30 GMT -5
I don't know...maybe considering the world-wide fan base, maybe 200000 is a limited edition?
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Post by Treecat on Aug 22, 2008 7:31:46 GMT -5
If there were a lot of copies that went unsold, and there appear to have been, it was because the set did not offer very much for people who already had the albums and didn't care for the luxury box and booklet.
The same seems to hold true for the Amarantine box set. There are a lot of unsold copies of it, too.
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Post by ardens on Aug 22, 2008 14:38:52 GMT -5
Maybe they produced 200000 copies assuming that only some people would be interested in such an expensive collection. But when they saw that there was a great demand, they produced some more. I still see it in German shops from time to time and the prices have increased again. It also seems to be quite successful on the German amazon. There it is usually higher in the charts than any other album by Enya apart from PTSWS.
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Post by eternity on Aug 24, 2008 9:01:06 GMT -5
It is not a cheap item, and I think it is just for collectors or people who wants to give as a gift. "Normal" fans who have the standard albums may have no reason to buy it. I really don't think that was only 200,000 copies... Maybe the UK version alone was limited to 200,000, other ones not. Surely, if it comes with the DVD, 200,000 will be sold on just some days. I see no obvious numbers on OTTC or on Deluxe Edition of Amarantine, as well other small limited editions (On My Way Home, Anywhere Is both on digipack and The Enya Collection). I still dream my days to have ANYTHING hand-signed.
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Post by Moe on Aug 24, 2008 11:34:51 GMT -5
Autographs are very hard to come by, eternity, unless you happen to be able to go to a signing, which relatively few of us can. I wouldn't buy one on ebay, or similar places - many are just forgeries.
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(C)arl
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Post by (C)arl on Aug 24, 2008 12:17:16 GMT -5
Usually, when a limited edition of sometime is offered for sale, each item bears its registration number; the autographed Amarantine booklet I have has its number clearly indicated, though I forget what it is at the moment. I never noticed any number in the OT:TC - has anyone seen one? OT:TC is a limited edition (or so it was told), but its not a numbered box set, which was never implied that it was. A limited edition isn't necessarily a numbered edition, it doesn’t necessarily have a unique number. A numbered edition on the other hand is always a limited edition, which is pretty obvious of course.
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Post by Treecat on Aug 24, 2008 20:36:48 GMT -5
Maybe the 200,000 number was PR fluff to increase the desirability of the set, and they really produce a lot more? It's not hard to find at a decent price.
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Post by (C)arl on Aug 29, 2008 10:03:41 GMT -5
Could be, but the booklet of OT:TC says: 'This edition is a limited worldwide release of 200,000.'So, the limitation is actually stated in OT:TC itself. And I find it rather disappointed that they would not only say something like this, but also mention it very clear in the booklet, when its not true at all.
This reminds me of a numbered collectors edition of the movie ‘Le fabuleux destin d'Amelie Poulain’. I bought the dvd a couple of years ago. On the backside it said that this 2 disc Collector’s edition was numbered, yet I could not find a unique number on the dvd case at all. After looking on the internet I learned that after the numbered collectors edition of the movie was sold out, they just produced them again. Yet, this second production was not numbered, but they didn’t even took the time to remove the information that stated that it was a numbered edition.
So, maybe OT:TC was first limited to 200,000, but after it was sold out they decided to produce it again. And unlike the ‘Amelie’ dvd, we can not search, whether OT:TC has a unique number or not, since its not a numbered edition.
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Post by eternity on Aug 31, 2008 7:56:40 GMT -5
Autographs are very hard to come by, eternity, unless you happen to be able to go to a signing, which relatively few of us can. I wouldn't buy one on ebay, or similar places - many are just forgeries. Yes, I know. It is not all Enya fans who live or may stay in US Europe and Japan in signing events - there is souls and heartbeats under the Equator line too. The scenario is worst, you might know, Moe. It was not this way before the Big Sister controls everything. In the golden ages, we can write to an Official fan club and get an autographed photo (if it was or not a forgerie, I don't know), at least a friend of mine has one hanging in the wall of his room. I wrote my letter too, and, the all history is well known, received an answer! But the photo they mentioned in the answer never comes. I don't know if they forget to put it inside or if was lost on mail - but there was no evidence of that. I still kept this letter (as well two of other six I wrote to Aigle and returned unclaimmed), to tell my mind I have tried. Now this club and the people behind it seems to be in an island lost in the shadows. Once I saw a photo of a japanese release of OTTC. Anyone knows if there is something different on this edition, despite the big OBI? And someone remembers the tiny marvelous website for OTTC? It still exists? I can't remember the URL.
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Post by Angoid on Sept 30, 2008 2:37:09 GMT -5
A website for OTTC? That would be interesting to see!
A LONG while ago, a member from another Enya board wanted to take a site down that they had developed, don't know why as the site was extremely well put together. Anyway, I helped with this but instead of deleting the files I zipped them up so that person could still get at them if need be. It was an Enya site, can't remember what it was called, and I don't have the zip file any more.
I bought my copy of OTTC via Amazon.co.uk, the service was very quick and it came with no problem at all. It did leave me wondering about the authenticity of the "only 200000 copies" thing.
For me at the time, I didn't have the individual albums so the OTTC set was a very good buy, giving me lots of Enya music that was new to me. Now, there are some albums out there that don't contain any new songs I don't already have on an original CD, so it's not really worth buying those.
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